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Matches cpu vs cpu!

Postby enes16 » 17 Apr 2024, 19:32

Hey lately I have been simulating a lot of matches te4 feminize 1.
1. cpu vs cpu on pro-10 on different courts, but I have a problem I play for example swiatek<bulldog in flow accelerator> vs sabalenka<powerbaseliner panzer> just giving an example<for men it is the same> in general stats for example it comes out that sabalenka is better but loses on every surface, isn't it a bit badly balanced, sabalenka fights only on master 4/5/6 depends on courts.
2. On the clay courts the exchanges are terribly long can this be fixed somehow or in general maybe someone has some advice to make the cpu vs cpu matches as realistic as possible, I've tried reducing speed, stamina, shot consistency, precision etc. but it doesn't really help, in general I feel that on every surface there are too many exchanges it's known that it's not as big a problem as in these 2013 but it would be nice to improve it a bit, although I know Manu wrote me once that this is finally a game and not real life!
3. Of course ratings I set according to my experience but I try to do similar as federrer, djokovic, nadal has because they are one of the only ones update on game. It would be nice if it was balanced a bit like in real life, so for wimbledon should dominate sabalenka, roland garos total domination of swiatek, us fairly evenly, australia slight advantage sabalenka. However, is it necessary to tune it only by level, as I do?
4. I also played with Strategy and thought it would help, but it didn't help enough to be a satisfying groove gameplay either.
5. I thought about also setting everyone as a power baseliner like in 2013, and it helps a bit but still not as much difference as I would expect.

Greetings thanks for the update for linux!
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Re: Matches cpu vs cpu!

Postby enes16 » 21 Apr 2024, 04:54

manutoo any advice :D ?
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Re: Matches cpu vs cpu!

Postby manutoo » 21 Apr 2024, 05:55

Hello,

sorry, I forgot to answer your post the other day !

1) Could you send me a Bug Report from this match-up? (HowTo => topic5-31732.php )

2) What is the average rally length ? If around 8, it's still ok. If significantly above, it's an issue, and there's not much you can change (if you play with the official version, without Mods), except making the clay faster

3) I should see the player skills & check a bit how they play before answering this.

4) 5) When you change a strategy, you have to play about 10 sets to be sure if it helped or not (same if you change a skill, player style, etc.), because the match result can vary a lot from one play to the other
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Re: Matches cpu vs cpu!

Postby enes16 » 21 Apr 2024, 13:33

1) Ok I'll post as I see something, but from what you wrote further it's probably not a bug it's just the way it is. And maybe I exaggerated that she always loses, but she loses 90%/95% of the time, and I say her skills are better I'll send a bug report next time if I can :D As I wrote only on master 4,5,6 sabalenka begins to play even matches, at one point I thought I was responsible for the playstyle and top spin, but I played with it and there were no big differences in terms of winning matches, swiatek sets about 70 top spin, sabalenka 35, and I also set e.g. for both powerbaseliner I thought it would help but still swiatek won 90% of matches. With men I have the same problems, unless I say I am setting something wrong with the players and you just teach me how to set it up better more or less :D<in te4 you can set skills to 100%, because I say I follow the settings of djokovic, federer and there they have a max of 91, and the positioning,self confidance etc setting I noticed to a max of 94 as I remember correctly and that's what I follow?> Will these be some superhuman powers? Because in te2013 it was always better to about 90% max> and if something is free mode of course. When I removed aceleration traits, which means I gave regular traits to both players and removed both players' talents, sabalenka started winning more often, Maybe these things are not quite balanced? Version of the game to 0.91 because I think it's the latest for Linux, in fact, I do not know if there are newer ones at all, because I don't even have a way to check it, for other systems. Most of the matches I play without changing the strategies of the players, Only sometimes I play with it.

Swiatek, https://ibb.co/GFXxqPz, https://ibb.co/3Y4zPQC
Sabalenka, https://ibb.co/sqmDYFZ, https://ibb.co/gZnvwDd

2) Yes the maximum I had 8/9 on clay on others is below 5.5, on grass of course the least then 4.5

3) I'll send this too someday but I'm talking modeling on djokovic,nadal,federrer

4) 5) yes I did it for 10 matches and more, but I say I did not feel any great difference.
I play official version all time, because I play on Linux and the mod doesn't work

New 6) And i heard that you can already combine both versions of tem2 and te4 but like i said i have the manager version on steam<which unfortunately i can't run on linux even with programs like lutris> and te4 i got from the official site. And nothing has changed I won't be able to link it ? Because we already talked about that I would have to have 2 versions on the same platform either steam or official site yes ? These 2013 I was able to fire up on Linux just using lutris but the mods don't work for me like they do in te4! Greetings again and sorry to bother your head, thanks for the great games !
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Re: Matches cpu vs cpu!

Postby manutoo » 22 Apr 2024, 07:21

1a) If "the way it is" is not good, then I should tune it... ;)
That's why having a Bug Report to see how it goes would be helpful.

1b) 100% skill in TE4 is top of the top, but it shouldn't be superhuman.

1c) Talents will help ; in your case, the Clay Mover is quite important if the match is on clay ; other things, not much.
The Acceleration Traits are not possibly very balanced as I didn't test too much.


2) Ok, so it's alright, even if not perfect. :)


6a) If you can run TE4 on Steam then you're ok : you just need to have TEM2 in your Steam account.

On Steam it would work with Proton, no ?


6b) You can send me a Bug Report when trying to load a Mod and I'll have a look at what's going on
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Re: Matches cpu vs cpu!

Postby enes16 » 22 Apr 2024, 12:19

1a) Honestly since it came out in some update something was not playing for me,and honestly most of the game I played without it but I thought over time something was corrected, ok I will send a send bug there will be information about the last match yes? How much should I send it from each match or 1?

1b) ok Ty <3

1c) Maybe, but it also seems to me that when I set some talents, the player has a great advantage but maybe I need to simulate more matches.<Well, because I turned off acceleration traits, I mean I put it on normal and still the swiatek wins in series on all surfaces>, The best matches were on power baseliner both players without acceleration traits, and I guess with or without talents was also good


2) Yes here is good, I think I got too much into it :D


6a) I have the te4 version without steam, and te2m I have on steam and once you said that then I will not be able to connect.

I have no idea if te4 works with proton te2m doesn't work either with proton or on lutris<or i can't set it up>.


6b) Ok one day I'll send it, but I'll tell you up front what's going on, the pictures don't show up in e.g. courts 2d<they're just white>, the menu also doesn't show the pictures just white fields. Animations, outfits as far as I remember everything works except for courts 2d, and the pictures<and as for the patch I wrote on the forum and on discord but no one wrote me back as for these errors>, courts 3d works !
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Re: Matches cpu vs cpu!

Postby Guest » 22 Apr 2024, 15:16

35 top spin rate is kinda low in TE4 even more on clay.. As i heard from manu that compared to TE2013 35 in TE2013 is more like 50 in TE4 if i remember correctly.

Try to change to 45 top spin for cpu matches. So 40+, 45 top spin skill for Sabalenka or others results may change.
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Re: Matches cpu vs cpu!

Postby enes16 » 22 Apr 2024, 15:27

Guest wrote:35 top spin rate is kinda low in TE4 even more on clay.. As i heard from manu that compared to TE2013 35 in TE2013 is more like 50 in TE4 if i remember correctly.

Try to change to 45 top spin for cpu matches. So 40+, 45 top spin skill for Sabalenka or others results may change.


I checked it I think from what I remember but will check again as far as this top spin is concerned ty for help, manutoo i send all problem for you with simulation matches and patch problem white courts 2d and pictures ! Write me if I sent it right or if it's too much spam :D
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Re: Matches cpu vs cpu!

Postby manutoo » 23 Apr 2024, 06:23

enes16,
1) Send me only 1 Bug Report at the end of a problematic match (when we can see the match stats)

2) For the Modding, you should make your filesystem case-insensitive : https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog ... e-in-ext4/ .

3) TE4 works on SteamDeck, so on Proton ; maybe not all versions of it, so should check some different versions.

Guest,
yes, 50% topspin in TE4 = 35% topspin in TE2013.
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Re: Matches cpu vs cpu!

Postby enes16 » 23 Apr 2024, 12:04

1) Ok but I sent all the matchs in which there are problematic results :D In every single one that I sent the Swiatek won well and I guess it shouldn't be like that.

2) TY I'll read what you sent me there. But I feel it might be too difficult I'm new to linux I don't know that much, honestly animations work, costumes too, courts also from the official version so nothing more is needed :D, 3d courts work, but can someone tell me how to fix the nets because it's the only thing that annoys me on 3d courts, I asked on discord and here on the forum if there will ever be an option that all files start with a capital letter and then everything would work, and it doesn't make any difference for windows. And if anything, I'll change to uppercase myself and then the courts 2d, nets, etc. work. I was doing what is on this page but the commands are not working for me unfortunately :(
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Re: Matches cpu vs cpu!

Postby manutoo » 24 Apr 2024, 05:55

2) I guess your Linux doesn't support Ext4 :fear:
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